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		<title>By: Request for Help with Website</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-3992</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally Posted by maulsl88   Hey thx Mike D,  I really hope this is what it is, and my site isn&#039;t lost completely. I mean I&#039;ve been creating links like crazy and thought they were the reason for such good rankings. I even started to get over 100 visitors a day which is a big accomplishment for me so far.  So I have a question for you about this sandbox. If my site is currently suffering from the sandbox and can still come up in the rankings, might the backlinks that I&#039;ve already built help my site move back up? Basically I know I&#039;ve created a lot of quality backlinks to my site, but I also know that it takes those links some time to actually get indexed - is this a correct understanding? So if many of those backlinks aren&#039;t even indexed yet might that be atleast a start to getting my site back up in the Search Engine?  Otherwise if links get indexed automatically in google, and there isn&#039;t a delay in time, then those 300+ links that I&#039;ve built to my site were all just a waste? And the way my site now sits in the search results is the actual result of all of the links I&#039;ve built? In other words, how it *really* sits in the search results without the benefit of google putting my site on the front page for fresh content?  I&#039;d just like to add one more thing to this post, and that is, is building 300+ backlinks to your site within just a little over a months time frame, bad for your website? In other words do I need to lay off the backlinks a little bit? Quite frankly I&#039;m unaware of how many links should be created a day, or how often they should be created. So I&#039;ve just been creating a bunch a day, every day. And I also have an automated article marketing service that submits articles at different times during the days, weeks, months etc. So this service has helped create a lot of links.   EDIT: Im thinking that building so many links in that short amount of time probably hurt my site. If this is the case, what steps can I take to remedy this situation? Do I stop building links? Only build a few a day? Any advice with this would be great    The links you have already created have not gone to waste. It is hard to say for sure without knowing everything you did, but over time those links will help you. What you need to concentrate on right now is building quality links from trusted domains. Also, build them slowly. Make sure they are single links (not from a blogroll). You just have to wait it out. I have seen sites come out within a few weeks and I have seen some take months. I just don&#039;t know exactly what goes into that.  The good news is your link building up to this point hasn&#039;t gone to waste. Eventually, those links will help you rank again. It is just important to keep building slowly and adding a lot of new content in the process. If you were targeting a single keyword you could go after variations of that keyword instead (more longtails).  As far as building links to quickly, I don&#039;t know a great answer to that. If you aren&#039;t spamming thousands of links I think you are fine. The time it takes to get quality links I think out-weighs any penalty you would get from them. I have always just made it look natural and not spammy. Many times it is just unavoidable. Eventually, your site will get aged and gain more trust. This isn&#039;t my site, but there is some good info on the topic here from one of the guys I learned SEO from. He really knows his stuff:  What To Do When Your Site Gets SANDBOXED [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by maulsl88   Hey thx Mike D,  I really hope this is what it is, and my site isn&#8217;t lost completely. I mean I&#8217;ve been creating links like crazy and thought they were the reason for such good rankings. I even started to get over 100 visitors a day which is a big accomplishment for me so far.  So I have a question for you about this sandbox. If my site is currently suffering from the sandbox and can still come up in the rankings, might the backlinks that I&#8217;ve already built help my site move back up? Basically I know I&#8217;ve created a lot of quality backlinks to my site, but I also know that it takes those links some time to actually get indexed &#8211; is this a correct understanding? So if many of those backlinks aren&#8217;t even indexed yet might that be atleast a start to getting my site back up in the Search Engine?  Otherwise if links get indexed automatically in google, and there isn&#8217;t a delay in time, then those 300+ links that I&#8217;ve built to my site were all just a waste? And the way my site now sits in the search results is the actual result of all of the links I&#8217;ve built? In other words, how it *really* sits in the search results without the benefit of google putting my site on the front page for fresh content?  I&#8217;d just like to add one more thing to this post, and that is, is building 300+ backlinks to your site within just a little over a months time frame, bad for your website? In other words do I need to lay off the backlinks a little bit? Quite frankly I&#8217;m unaware of how many links should be created a day, or how often they should be created. So I&#8217;ve just been creating a bunch a day, every day. And I also have an automated article marketing service that submits articles at different times during the days, weeks, months etc. So this service has helped create a lot of links.   EDIT: Im thinking that building so many links in that short amount of time probably hurt my site. If this is the case, what steps can I take to remedy this situation? Do I stop building links? Only build a few a day? Any advice with this would be great    The links you have already created have not gone to waste. It is hard to say for sure without knowing everything you did, but over time those links will help you. What you need to concentrate on right now is building quality links from trusted domains. Also, build them slowly. Make sure they are single links (not from a blogroll). You just have to wait it out. I have seen sites come out within a few weeks and I have seen some take months. I just don&#8217;t know exactly what goes into that.  The good news is your link building up to this point hasn&#8217;t gone to waste. Eventually, those links will help you rank again. It is just important to keep building slowly and adding a lot of new content in the process. If you were targeting a single keyword you could go after variations of that keyword instead (more longtails).  As far as building links to quickly, I don&#8217;t know a great answer to that. If you aren&#8217;t spamming thousands of links I think you are fine. The time it takes to get quality links I think out-weighs any penalty you would get from them. I have always just made it look natural and not spammy. Many times it is just unavoidable. Eventually, your site will get aged and gain more trust. This isn&#8217;t my site, but there is some good info on the topic here from one of the guys I learned SEO from. He really knows his stuff:  What To Do When Your Site Gets SANDBOXED [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dencha</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>dencha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe I&#039;m experimenting the effects of the Google Sandbox, but not sure what&#039;s the cause of it...here&#039;s what I did and when I notice the effect.

I originally had StatsCounter to check my traffic stats but just recently decided to switch out and use Google Analytics to integrate it with my Adsense.

I was seeing about 250-300UV/day but once I installed the analytic code, my traffic dropped to only 10-15UV/day. I couldn&#039;t find my site for a keyphrase (5 word keyphrase) I was getting good traffic from anywhere in the SERP. 

Only thing I&#039;ve done was add the code and add a new post, that&#039;s about it.

Anyone could explain what just happen or if Google Analytics could have cause this &quot;sandbox&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe I&#8217;m experimenting the effects of the Google Sandbox, but not sure what&#8217;s the cause of it&#8230;here&#8217;s what I did and when I notice the effect.</p>
<p>I originally had StatsCounter to check my traffic stats but just recently decided to switch out and use Google Analytics to integrate it with my Adsense.</p>
<p>I was seeing about 250-300UV/day but once I installed the analytic code, my traffic dropped to only 10-15UV/day. I couldn&#8217;t find my site for a keyphrase (5 word keyphrase) I was getting good traffic from anywhere in the SERP. </p>
<p>Only thing I&#8217;ve done was add the code and add a new post, that&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>Anyone could explain what just happen or if Google Analytics could have cause this &#8220;sandbox&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-2156</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this new cash flow oppertunity and I wanted to share it with everyone

http://www.ehow.com/how_4859939_earn-extra-money-early-today.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this new cash flow oppertunity and I wanted to share it with everyone</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_4859939_earn-extra-money-early-today.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ehow.com/how_4859939_earn-extra-money-early-today.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mac Gizmo Guy</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-2045</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac Gizmo Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This obsession with Google LUV hurts everyone. There&#039;s not nearly enough concrete info and in-depth analysis of how to truly optimize effectively for Yahoo and MSN to diversify and strengthen your foundation so that the sea of Goog&#039;s sometimes daily mood-shifts don&#039;t overturn our boats. I&#039;ve yet to find good tactical info on effective correlations and implementations to getting G/Y/M love with balance.

Beware the hand that feeds you: I&#039;ve yanked Analytics and AdSense off several of my sites - I simply refuse to continuously give Goog the in-depth power tools they need (and use) to reward or punish my words with. Yank those snippets of code and you can FORCE Goog to scramble to reevaluate you for a burst of a more &#039;organic&#039; rating of your site. It may be brief and temporary, but you can continue steady, methodical link-building in the interim. Appease them by re-adding the code for awhile to trigger a new round of getting felt-up: Play a game with their game: It beats sitting in a sandbox in a prom dress waiting for someone to love you.

I refuse to cave-in to Goog as the Be All, End All for eternity. I find it helps to see their place in the firmament like other great Technology Gods in their heyday: Lotus 1-2-3, Aston-Tate&#039;s DBase, Compuserve, Gateway, AOL, Quantum disk drives... Oh how the mighty have fallen, it&#039;s lonely at the top, and the only way to go is down... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This obsession with Google LUV hurts everyone. There&#8217;s not nearly enough concrete info and in-depth analysis of how to truly optimize effectively for Yahoo and MSN to diversify and strengthen your foundation so that the sea of Goog&#8217;s sometimes daily mood-shifts don&#8217;t overturn our boats. I&#8217;ve yet to find good tactical info on effective correlations and implementations to getting G/Y/M love with balance.</p>
<p>Beware the hand that feeds you: I&#8217;ve yanked Analytics and AdSense off several of my sites &#8211; I simply refuse to continuously give Goog the in-depth power tools they need (and use) to reward or punish my words with. Yank those snippets of code and you can FORCE Goog to scramble to reevaluate you for a burst of a more &#8216;organic&#8217; rating of your site. It may be brief and temporary, but you can continue steady, methodical link-building in the interim. Appease them by re-adding the code for awhile to trigger a new round of getting felt-up: Play a game with their game: It beats sitting in a sandbox in a prom dress waiting for someone to love you.</p>
<p>I refuse to cave-in to Goog as the Be All, End All for eternity. I find it helps to see their place in the firmament like other great Technology Gods in their heyday: Lotus 1-2-3, Aston-Tate&#8217;s DBase, Compuserve, Gateway, AOL, Quantum disk drives&#8230; Oh how the mighty have fallen, it&#8217;s lonely at the top, and the only way to go is down&#8230; <img src='http://thekeywordacademy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chef Jackets</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>Chef Jackets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been lucky in avoiding the sandbox until now. My last three sites got ranked very nicely thank you; the current one, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.equitamortgageprotectionleads.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; an insurance lead generation company&lt;/a&gt; is stuck.

It only seems to be affected on three or four keyword phrases - the major ones of course! I&#039;ve concluded that I should simply slowly build links on other, related keywords and be patient.

Very difficult for me to do :-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been lucky in avoiding the sandbox until now. My last three sites got ranked very nicely thank you; the current one, <a href="http://www.equitamortgageprotectionleads.com" rel="nofollow"> an insurance lead generation company</a> is stuck.</p>
<p>It only seems to be affected on three or four keyword phrases &#8211; the major ones of course! I&#8217;ve concluded that I should simply slowly build links on other, related keywords and be patient.</p>
<p>Very difficult for me to do :-0</p>
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		<title>By: Supermance</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Supermance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how do i know if my blog gets sandboxed ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how do i know if my blog gets sandboxed ?</p>
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		<title>By: Niche Marketing</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-1978</link>
		<dc:creator>Niche Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do you recommend for a daily submission # to Squidoo pages and ezine pages you just created....</description>
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		<title>By: What To Do When Your Site Gets SANDBOXED &#124; 我思我言</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>What To Do When Your Site Gets SANDBOXED &#124; 我思我言</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What To Do When Your Site Gets SANDBOXED [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mikael</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scarlett, I think you&#039;re seeing ghosts where there are none. First of all the sandbox has nothing to do with monetization of the site or not. You can have a plain (non adsense/non affiliate) site go into the sandbox as well. That makes no difference. Often times you will just find that sites using adsense or affiliate links will have links built faster because people wants to make money. It is the link building that gets them and not because they are trying to make money.

The best thing to do is just take it slow. Instead of trying to get massive amounts of links a day (5-10 or more), then try to get some of the higher quality links (higher PR pages) instead. It will often take a lot longer to get a PR6 links than it will to get a PR0 link but because of the time involved you are keeping yourself from building links too fast.

Note: it doesn&#039;t have to be a PR6 link. PR3 or PR4 will do and can often times take a fair amount of time getting from RELATED sites that is NOT owned by you (don&#039;t get tempted to used your own network and build links fast even though you can).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scarlett, I think you&#8217;re seeing ghosts where there are none. First of all the sandbox has nothing to do with monetization of the site or not. You can have a plain (non adsense/non affiliate) site go into the sandbox as well. That makes no difference. Often times you will just find that sites using adsense or affiliate links will have links built faster because people wants to make money. It is the link building that gets them and not because they are trying to make money.</p>
<p>The best thing to do is just take it slow. Instead of trying to get massive amounts of links a day (5-10 or more), then try to get some of the higher quality links (higher PR pages) instead. It will often take a lot longer to get a PR6 links than it will to get a PR0 link but because of the time involved you are keeping yourself from building links too fast.</p>
<p>Note: it doesn&#8217;t have to be a PR6 link. PR3 or PR4 will do and can often times take a fair amount of time getting from RELATED sites that is NOT owned by you (don&#8217;t get tempted to used your own network and build links fast even though you can).</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://thekeywordacademy.com/what-to-do-when-your-site-gets-sandboxed/#comment-1972</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 01:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Court,

What do you mean when you say &quot;You also want to scale back so that you’re adding single links only - that means no new blogroll links and no article-distribution links.&quot;

Is that single links pointing to your site from outside sources?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Court,</p>
<p>What do you mean when you say &#8220;You also want to scale back so that you’re adding single links only &#8211; that means no new blogroll links and no article-distribution links.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that single links pointing to your site from outside sources?</p>
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